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I wanted to post a fairly difficult central incisor case that I just completed...
This patient came to me wanting to improve her smile. She had some chipping and wear on tooth #8 and an old PFM on tooth #9 that had a previous RCT.
The tissue was extremely inflammed on #9 and the margin was quite subgingival. I determined that she had a biologic width invasion here that was likely going to need osseous crown lengthening....
So first, I planned the case out using simple photoshop smile design...
Here is where she needed her gingival crest to be on 8 and 9:
Here is where I planned where her teeth needed to be to have correct proportions. Tooth #8 needed to be lengthened slightly and the incisal edge on #9 was correct based on her lip at rest photo:
Then I quickly morphed the teeth into the correct position using photoshop:
So... the plan was the following:
- Prep and provisionalize the teeth to the correct position using a diode laser to recontour the tissue based on the original plan
- Send her to the Periodontist to perform osseous crown lengthening (mostly on #9) to get the tissue to respond and eliminate the Biologic Width problem
- Allow the tissue to heal
- Fabricate the final restorations
After removing the crown on #9... I got another suprise... ouch:
I opaqued the tooth to try the best I could to block it out and finalized the preparations on both 8 and 9:
I made the provisionals on 8 and 9 and sent her to the periodontist:
Two months later after healing, we did the final restorations out of e.max MT shade M1:
There was still a little darkness coming from the root of #9, but overall I was very pleased (and the patient was thrilled). If you look at the smile picture, it doesn't show :)
This was a long and difficult case to do... but I feel because it was planned properly and the patient understood what was needed, it turned out pretty good!
Female patient with existing bridge from #7-10; 8 and 9 are the pontics. She's not happy with the esthetics and won't even smile fully due to how bad it looks. No worries...I have CEREC. She's not interested in implants and I'm not comfortable using laterals as abutments. So, we decide to do 2 bridges; #6-8 and #9-11 (cantilevers). She was anxious to begin so Mr Know-it-All here didn't feel a wax-up was needed b/c I could knock it out of the park. Let the scanning begin!
So CEREC images are taken. In the ADMIN screen, I designate #6, 7 as crowns and #8 as a pontic. I then designate #11, 10 as crowns as #9 as a pontic. HERE'S WHERE I SCREWED UP. I did not notice that the computer thought I was designing a 6-unit bridge and not 2, 3-unit bridges. Notice how all 6 teeth are connected? Yeah...I missed that.
I finish my design and finally notice the problem. Oh crap. I went back to the ADMIN screen and attempted to change it. Nope...not permitted. If I re-designated the teeth, I lost the design. I solved my problem by creating a space/gap between the centrals. How? Dial in the contacts to where you want. SAVE the case. Use SHAPE ANATOMICAL tool to move one central and create a gap. Mill that bridge. Close the case WITHOUT saving it and you open it back up with the centrals/contact perfect again. Use the shape tool on the other tooth and mill that bridge.
Yes, it wasn't fun adjusting the contacts and shaping the bridges but I made it work. Here's the mistake I made and how to avoid it
Note the arrow and how the computer has all the teeth connected. Click on the chain and remove it to designate the case as 2 separate bridges.
Hope that helps someone avoid the fun I had milling these (each took an hour) and adjusting the contacts. Yes, I could have redesigned the case but I also wanted to see if my work around worked. Here are the immediate delivery pics.
Hi Arash- thought I would follow up with a recent case that "might" address your respectable desire to be conservative, and and example of when I might cover a cusp or leave it... usually on molars, if there is an MOD present, I'm more likely to cover the cusps than leave them, but at least in a few recent cases made the decision to leave some intact..
30 existing MOD-A, recurrent caries apparent MB cusp
31 O-A recurrent caries multiple fracture present, remarkable asymptomatic
Removed amalgams initially with depth bur, just to establish fissure depth adequate for e.Max (1.5mm depth bur) on 30... 1.0 on 31 appropriate for Zirconia
Was pretty committed to circumferential coverage of 31 just based on clinical appearance, and in a less esthetic area felt that zirconia would be my choice in a "conservative" mind to reduce less occlusally and axially... Extending only enough for proper resistance and retention form for a conventionally cemented restoration, to include fractures as much as possible. On 30, there was recurrent caries as anticipated undermining MB cusp, but the rest was clean.... at which point its a game time decision to reduce remaining cusps or not... in this case I didn't. Spefic reason? Complete vertical functioning patient, no fractures, dentin supported cusps, and esp not a lot of complexity that would complicate the seating... and because there are cavosurface margins, I felt a hybrid would wear and function better marginally (used Cerasmart). There was still some minor contact at DB margin, but the hybrid wears better, AND I adjusted opposing lightly to remove that area only...
If I had decided I needed to cover the cusps which what was suggested above in one of your case examples...I would have taken what I had here in the design pic, and just reduce the remaining cusps sufficiently for the material (complete occlusal coverage would have been e.Max) and just smooth/blended the transitions from proximals to buccal and lingual surfaces... make sure there is at least a semi-functional cusp bevel buccally--- which is not a resistance/retention form issue as it is a sufficient thickness material for the case. More examples could be given, but was just trying to show that it's not dogmatic about not leaving cusps, it just depends on the case. Making your cases easier and more predictable, also makes you a better dentist. :)
Not to beat a dead horse, but being conservative means different things to different people. But as far as how I think about it, I'd rather not leave things subject to predicable fracture, have restorations that are predictably delivered, and that means enough occlusal reduction---where there is plenty of enamel to bond to.... I am more concerned about reduction nearer the CEJ where you are closer to pulp space, cutting away enamel to bond to, expose pt to easier recurrent decay potential, etc. More could be said about all of that, but a good video series is available with better information.....
Hope that helps!
If you've ever done a denture conversion to an implant-supported, screw-retained provisional prosthesis after the implant surgery, you know how messy and time-consuming it can be. So I was thinking: If we are capable of very accurate implant placement, then we should know exactly where our implants are going to be placed. And if we know that, then we should also know precisely where the prosthesis should attach, right? So what's stopping us from having a pre-made, implant-supported prosthesis instead of having to convert a windowed surgical denture? Well, as it turns out, the answer to that question is that nothing is stopping us except a little ingenuity and effort.
For the last few weeks, I've been working on an All-on-xxxx solution within the Sirona system. I must give a deserving shout-out to my lab partner on the following case, Brad Diver of Champion Ceramics Studio, for doing all the InLab design work and milling of the interim prosthesis. I also want to thank Jay Black from Winter Springs Dental Lab for all of his guidance through this process and for helping us create some clever work-arounds. Lastly, thank you to all my surgical mentors who encouraged me to take on my first All-on-xxxx surgery.
So I had this patient for initial exam last Friday with chief complaints of having a big hole with fractured filling on lower right side. I ended up doing # 30 onlay from GC Cerasmart. Everything went well and I asked some of my friends who are using CAD-CAM and their view on this particular case is that ML wall is way to thin and it will fracture and they would do full coverage crown on it. My argument to this is if it fails I will do crown for patient in short run but If I can buy out more time keeping more natural tooth why not do that. I want to get opinion about this case here and see if anyone would restore this tooth any differently in respect to material choice and/or preparing tooth for full coverage crown.
Wanted to share this case that I have almost finished up. Little back story is patient came in with quite a bit of pain. Two fistulas on 4 and 14 I believe and a large pulp cap/IRM thing done at a clinic somewhere on number 11. Other than that lots of cavities on most of her upper teeth. She was ready to pull them and go to dentures because she didnt feel like she had the money.
Well thankfully she walked into our office! Not because I am some dental wizard but because I am a GP who does a good bit of procedures and I love cerec. So I basically said hey, I want to help, why don't you let me just fix whatever I have to fix for a flat fee! We agreed on a price and off we went. We ended up doing 3 root canals and 13 units on top. 1 implant, 1 root canal, and 2 crowns on the bottom(We still have to restore the implant in a couple months). My cost for everything in materials is under 1,000 bucks easy. I ended up doing everything for like 10k so I still made a great profit, got tons of experience, and now have a referring patient for life! Anyways wanted to share because I love that cerec gives me more flexibility to work with patients on cost for these large cases becasue my lab bill is so much smaller. I probably would have spent 4K easy in lab without a cerec!
Wish I had done this case after level 4 a couple weeks ago hahaha, my anterior crowns would be wayyy better! But as you can imagine she is thrilled! And if you arent doing it you should seriously start asking patients if they dont mind sharing there story/experience...she was like of course, I want others to do this!
CEREC- The Universal Language
I have just returned from a wonderful life experience. One that showed the world is small but also that CEREC can be a universal language that spreads around the globe. Not only the group assembled was wide and vast from across north America, but the interactions with those beyond our boundaries demonstrated a common goal. CEREC also has crossed over generational divisions, we saw the past and we have been teased with the future.
We embarked on seeing what is coming in the world of Dentistry from around the world at IDS, from the many manufacturers present. This was followed by field trips to some of the companies we have current ties to.
We had the chance to have a private visit on a Saturday, Tobias Lehner came in and opened the doors to SICAT and our eyes for software refinements they are working on. At SICAT we saw their commitment to making our lives better through refinement of the software used for our imaging, 2 D radiography and our 3D radiography. They have listened to our concerns for improving how we plan and treat our Implant cases, our larger restorative cases where the articulator function will mesh with the CEREC system. Bringing us closer to the true virtual patient. Also exploring other areas where we can benefit, in particular endodontic therapy. Helping us to unlock the anatomy of the root canal systems present in the teeth we treat. Combing 2D imaging with our 3D imaging and working with the anatomy of the specific tooth. Allowing us to fully evaluate, treatment plan and perform endodontic therapy better and more efficiently.
Ivoclar opened the doors to their headquarters to allow us to see some of the magic that happens there. They showed how they develop products that are used on our patients through their whole dental life, from when teeth erupt to when teeth are lost. They create solutions not only for the largest part of our practices, restoring teeth by fabricating partial coverage and full coverage restorations, bringing our patients back to function. Ivoclar helps in the more complicated process of replacing the missing tooth, fabricating bridges and restoring the implants that solve these problems for our patients. And now digitally constructed full dentures, offering simplicity and efficiency to a laborious process.
The future for the digital workflow is expanding. but there was a day that was priceless where we had the opportunity to get a history lesson from none other than the originator. Prof. Dr Werner Mormann, a man with the simple wish to improve the way we could restore the damaged teeth our patients present with, and the determination to devote his life to make it a reality. A single visit ceramic restoration done in an economical way.
It was an honest and insightful visit where you can see his passion for improving the system continues. Improvement from a dentist for a dentist designed system. In fact when discussing the Redcam Dr. Rich Rosenblatt said “Dr Mormann even the original camera is smaller then many of the current intra-oral scanners available” and with that Dr Mormann responded “not only smaller but faster and better!” with a large grin on his face. Followed by “and we are always looking to improve the imaging”. A pioneer who realizes he needs to evolve and grow his ideas, to continue to push the technology to the limit. This look at the past was followed by a look at the future with Dr. Moritz Zimmerman with the upcoming 4.5 software. It was a talk that teased us with improvements but also clarified questions of the past.
Materials, techniques, software and hardware all combining to create a focal point for the special group in the world of dentistry. We spoke with people from all around the globe, sharing thoughts and ideas. We made friends due to a common desire, a common language.
And that is what CEREC is, and with the hard work of many, it will continue to be.
I have been asked about this a lot, so I thought I would post a quick case...
In 4.5, you now have the ability to dry mill zirconia abutments with carbides (can wet mill with carbides too if you do not have the new mill). The advantages of this are going to be smaller sprue and time savings
Here is a case that I inherited. He came in with an implant placed on #8, and a crown prep on #9. He was wearing a cantilever temp as a provisional. He had a trauma at work and both #7 and 9 had RCT as well. Implant was a 3.3.Straumann Bone Level
My plan originally was to crown #7, Implant custom abutment and crown on #8, crown on #9 and do a composite on #10 to make more symmetric. He declined the composite on #10 or now because he didn't think it was necessary and was not too conscious of the esthetics.
I was mostly concerned with the symmetry of the centrals, so here is my original plans:
Here is what the design of the centrals and the dry milled custom abutment looks like:
and here is the final result:
I thought I would start an official thread for you all to ask questions and to archive the conversation on some of the new IDS announcements today and the V4.5 software.
We will be making an entire new catalog (all videos for every indication) with V4.5. Expect to see these videos later as the software gets finalized. However, we will release some additional preview videos after we all get back from Germany.
- Release of the software will likely be sometime in June
- No cost is currently available for the new HUB (see below) or color calibration unit (I will be inexpensive)
So here is an outline of some of the news from today:
CEREC SW V4.5 will allow you to export .stl file in the model phase. This will allow you to do what you want with the case or 3D print it in your office if you wish. You will not be able to export restoration data as .stl files.
CEREC Software V4.5:
- Faster Imaging
- Photo-realistic proposals
- Better color in Model
- Edges of preparations are displayed better
- Precalculation of data during acquisition (models still spin, but will speed up process)
- Auto recognizes restoration type
- SINGLE model phase
- Auto insertion axis
- Continued Better proposals
- Better milling and grinding strategies for better fit
I posted a video on another thread and will repost it here. The Omnicam will recognize shade. It works really well and the software will tell you based on your scan the best areas to take the shade!
Zirconia Abutment Blocks:
New precolored CEREC Zirconia blocks for both Screw Retained and Cement Retained solutions. They also will be able to be dry milled with the carbides.
Hub by Dentsply Sirona:
This is a cloud based data backup and archiving unit.
The hardware will be a networked data center for backup and transfer of CEREC cases. It will be available even when the AC unit is turned off
It will have it's own security and allow complete syncronization of CEREC data between all workstations and AC units
That is all for now. More later.